A 24-hour recording of RNZ National. The following rundown is sourced from the broadcaster’s website. Note some overseas/copyright restricted items may not appear in the supplied rundown:
17 September 2016
===12:04 AM. | All Night Programme===
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Including: 12:05 Music after Midnight (RNZ); 12:30 Laugh Track (RNZ); 1:05 From the World (BBC); 2:05 NZ Live; 3:05 Classical Music by Joy Cowley read by Peta Rutter (11 of 15, RNZ); 3:30 The Week (RNZ); 4:30 Global Business (BBCWS); 5:10 Witness (BBC); 5:45 Voices (RNZ)
===6:08 AM. | Storytime===
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Scaredy Cat, by Jillian Sullivan, told by Jennifer Ludlam; Cousins, by Maria Samuela, told by Miria George; The Beautiful Scarf, by Norman McCallum, told by Bruce Phillips; Josefa and the Vu, by Tulia Thompson, told by Madeleine Sami; The End of the World, by Joy Cowley, told by Riwia Brown; Switching Off the Lights, by Paddy Richardson, told by Riwia Brown
===7:10 AM. | Country Life===
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Memorable scenes, people and places in rural New Zealand (RNZ)
===8:10 AM. | Saturday Morning===
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A mixture of current affairs and feature interviews, until midday (RNZ)
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08:10
Michelle Cottle: Hillary Clinton and misogyny
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Kim Hill talks to Michelle Cottle, contributing editor at The Atlantic, about the presidential candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
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Why does Hillary Clinton the Democratic candidate in the US presidential elections attract such antipathy?
The percentage of Americans who hold a strongly unfavourable view of Clinton is far greater than for any other Democratic nominee since that particular thing has been measured in 1980.
One poll shows 52 percent of white men hold a very unfavourable view of her – 20 points higher than held that same view of Barack Obama in 2012.
Michelle Cottle is contributing editor at The Atlantic and she says if Clinton wins, despite the misogyny, she’s not going to escape it in the White House.
“Even if Hillary Clinton wins it’s not going to be this great kumbaya moment where we solve our gender problems.
“A lot of people were very disappointed that the Obama presidency did not usher in an age of post-racial harmony,” she says.
She says there has already been an uptick in aggressive sexist language being used about Clinton and misogynistic rhetoric on the campaign trial.
“It’s gotten really dark, really early and if you go on social media it gets even uglier.”
But is this just special pleading, do people dislike Clinton because she unlikeable?
“The Clintons in general as a family have always elicited strong emotions for people, and Hilary does not have a lot of the same redeeming qualities as her husband.
“She’s not terribly friendly or chatty, she’s uncomfortable with personal sharing, comes across as chilly, comes across as grossly dishonest, and so there are plenty of reasons to dislike her.”
And although she says not everyone who dislikes her is a sexist, there is an overlay of sexism at play.
“There are folks who just aren’t comfortable with female leadership in executive roles.”
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Tags: US, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, Us Presidential Election, sexism, misogyny, gender
Duration: 25'52"
08:35
Dylan Taylor: the ESRA think tank
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Kim Hill talks to Dr Dylan Taylor, lecturer in Sociology at Victoria University of Wellington, editor of Counterfutures, and member of the board of trustees and a researcher for new think-tank Economic and Social Research Aotearoa (ESRA).
Topics: politics, history, inequality
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Tags: ESRA, Labour Party, neo-liberalism, Chris Trotter, occupy, Marxism
Duration: 22'07"
09:10
Anthony Byrt: art, criticism, and poker
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Kim Hill talks to New Zealand critic and journalist Anthony Byrt, writer for Metro, contributor to international contemporary art magazine Artforum International, and Reviewer of the Year at the 2015 Canon Media Awards. He writes about his life, and art, in This Model World: Travels to the Edge of Contemporary Art (AUP).
Topics: arts, author interview, identity, internet, sport
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Tags: Judy Millar, The Listener, Berlin, Yvonne Todd, Shane Cotton, Steve Carr, Billy Apple, Craig Hilton, Simon Denny, Kim Dotcom, Nicky Hager, poker, Simon Wilson, Metro, Brexit, Walters Prize, genetics, philosophy, Peter Robinson, bitcoin
Duration: 41'15"
09:50
Mitchell Chandler: Our Ocean
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Kim Hill talks to Mitchell Chandler, who is majoring in oceanography at the University of Otago. He was chosen by the Sir Peter Blake Trust to represent New Zealand as one of 150 youth delegates from around the world at the first-ever Our Ocean, One Future: Leadership Summit in Washington D.C., which ran this week alongside the Our Ocean 2016 conference, hosted by John Kerry.
Topics: climate, environment, Pacific, politics, science
Regions: Auckland Region, Nelson Region
Tags: Philippe Cousteau, Jacques Cousteau, John Kerry, Barack Obama, oceans
Duration: 8'13"
10:10
Dianne Brunton: bird songs and dialects
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Kim Hill talks to Professor Dianne Brunton, who founded the Ecology and Conservation Group at the Albany campus of Massey University, and currently heads the Institute of Natural and Mathematical Sciences. She specialises in the study of New Zealand's native birds, and their communication through birdsong. Backed by the Marsden Fund in 2013, her team are tracking the dialects of songbirds in Auckland and Northland.
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Kim Hill talks to Professor Dianne Brunton, who founded the Ecology and Conservation Group at the Albany campus of Massey University, and currently heads the Institute of Natural and Mathematical Sciences.
She specialises in the study of New Zealand's native birds, and their communication through birdsong. Backed by the Marsden Fund in 2013, her team are tracking the dialects of songbirds in Auckland and Northland.
Read an edited excerpt of the interview below:
You’ve been studying this for a long time, and I’ve heard you talk about how tuis differ, how saddleback dialects differ, and similarly with bellbirds, yes?
I’ve been interested in bellbirds for a while. Years ago when I came back from doing a PhD and post-doc in the US, I was really struck by the fact that bellbird females sing. That northern hemisphere bias in birdsong research, focusses on male song because the females don’t sing much. In New Zealand and Australia, in the tropics, it’s really striking how males and females sing, so we started working a little bit on bellbirds and then we switched to saddlebacks for a while, then I came back to bellbirds when I got the Marsden grant in 2013. That’s really to focus on male and female dialects. They have different dialects and the use of the song and the relationships that males and females have in using the song are quite different.
How many different songs would they have? For example a mating song, and a “hello is anybody out there?” song…
It’s not quite like that. What we have found is that the songs, they have lots of different song types, they put the syllables together in different ways, there is an overlap in the syllables that we see. There is a whole language that goes along with studying song. But those are the components that make up the different little parts of the song that make up the overall bout of a song.
In bellbirds, males and females sing songs that are probably three seconds long, but they put them together in lots of different ways. The syllables males have and females have are about… three-quarters of them are different, there is a little bit of overlap and so we’ve been looking at that in terms of lots of island locations.
There are three projects that centre on the bellbird song. One is the development of the song and my PhD student has been tracking chicks from the nest until they set up territories and looking at how the songs of males and females develop over that time. They start out, there is this baby babble where you can’t even work out what the syllable is, and they finally crystalise when they are about a year old. We wanted to see if males and females have the same development of song.
Do they?
They do, which suggests they have similar structures in the brain and similar structures in the syrinx.
Hang on a minute, I was astonished about this, you say in the northern hemisphere, in general, only the male birds sing?
Yes. The females might give little calls, but the males are the ones that set up territories and display to attract females and to keep other males out.
I never knew that. So, do you think if you examined the brains of the northern hemisphere birds, would their brains be different?
Well, yes and no. the birds that sing, whether they are male and female… especially the song-learning birds, so the birds that have to acquire their song from tutors that are either their parents or other birds they hear in their environment, so those birds have got certain structures in the brain that enable them to learn and then enable them to crystalise that song and produce it.
Females in the northern hemisphere start out with the same structures in the brain, but then the females, by the time they are one year of age, have lost that ability to learn song and produce it. We haven’t looked at the brains of bellbirds yet, this is an endemic, native species that is protected, so we are able to collect specimens that have died of natural causes, but we plan on looking at the structure of the female brain as well.
Topics: environment, science
Regions: Auckland Region
Tags: Bellbirds, tui, saddleback, Korimako, birds
Duration: 23'56"
10:40
Jamie Steer: introduced species
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Kim Hill talks to Dr Jamie Steer, whose research explores the understanding of introduced species in New Zealand in the context of biodiversity management, arguing for a more reconciliatory approach to their history and fate in the country. (NB. The views expressed in this interview are those of Dr Steer alone and are related solely to his academic research.)
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Kim Hill talks to Dr Jamie Steer, whose research explores the understanding of introduced species in New Zealand in the context of biodiversity management, arguing for a more reconciliatory approach to their history and fate in the country.
The views expressed in this interview are those of Dr Steer alone and are related solely to his academic research.
The war on predators and pests is a failed strategy, based on the delusion that we can turn back the clock, he says.
"Our forests are changing and they are going to keep on changing. Possums are part of that change. For me change is not the end of the world. I think we can learn to accept a broader range of species, we don't need to restore our environment to pre-human times."
Topics: environment, farming, rural, science
Regions: Wellington Region
Tags: mustelids, possums, birds, conservation, introduced species, stoats
Duration: 23'45"
11:10
Toby Carr
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Kim Hill talks to Toby Carr is the CEO and founder of trading company DeXTech Ltd, and has just received an international youth leadership award. He is a speaker on the Future of Education panel at the Festival for the Future (23-25 September).
Topics: business, economy, education, internet, money, technology
Regions: Auckland Region
Tags: Eliot Smith, DeXTech, iphone, social enterprise, homelessness
Duration: 30'07"
11:40
Bruce Gilkison: James Hogg, the Ettrick Shepherd
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Kim Hill talks to Bruce Gilkison, who spent the past two northern summers walking some of the Highland journeys completed in 1802-1804 by his great-great-grandfather, the Scottish writer, poet, sportsman, musician and larger-than-life personality James Hogg. He writes about him in Walking with James Hogg: The Ettrick Shepherd's Journeys through Scotland.
Topics: author interview, books, arts, history
Regions: Nelson Region, Otago
Tags: James Hogg, poetry, Andre Gide, Ian Rankin, Scotland, highlands, Walter Scott, Outer Hebrides, Ettrick, Robbie Burns, Alice Munro
Duration: 18'02"
11:59
Listener Feedback to Saturday 17 September 2016
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Kim Hill reads messages from listeners to the Saturday Morning programme of 17 September 2016.
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Duration: 15'02"
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8:12 Michelle Cottle
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Michelle Cottle has been contributing editor at The Atlantic since the end of 2015, after working as a senior writer for the National Journal and as long-time editor with The New Republic. She writes regularly on US politics, and will discuss the presidential candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
8:30 Dylan Taylor
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Dr Dylan Taylor is a lecturer in Sociology at Victoria University of Wellington and editor of Counterfutures. As a member of the board of trustees and a researcher for new think-tank Economic and Social Research Aotearoa (ESRA), he is furthering his interest in social movements, democracy, political theory and social inequalities. His first monograph, Claiming the Century: The Promise of Social Movements and Democracy in the 21st Century, will be published next year.
9:05 Anthony Byrt
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New Zealand critic and journalist Anthony Byrt is a regular writer for Metro, contributor to international contemporary art magazine Artforum International, and was judged Reviewer of the Year at the 2015 Canon Media Awards. He writes about his life, and art, in This Model World: Travels to the Edge of Contemporary Art (AUP), and will launch it at Starkwhite in Auckland on 22 September, and at City Gallery Wellington on 28 September. He talks about artist Simon Denny during the interview; listen to Kim Hill's interview with Simon Denny from 's interview from 2015 here.
9:45 Mitchell Chandler
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Mitchell Chandler is in his second year of a BSC majoring in oceanography at the University of Otago. He has been chosen by the Sir Peter Blake Trust to represent New Zealand as one of 150 youth delegates from around the world at the first-ever Our Ocean, One Future: Leadership Summit in Washington D.C., which is running alongside the Our Ocean 2016 conference, hosted by John Kerry.
10:05 Dianne Brunton
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Professor Dianne Brunton founded the Ecology and Conservation Group at the Albany campus of Massey University, and currently heads the Institute of Natural and Mathematical Sciences. She specialises in the study of New Zealand’s native birds, and their communication through birdsong. Backed by the Marsden Fund in 2013, her team are tracking the dialects of songbirds in Auckland and Northland. She will talk about this and other findings in a free public lecture at Massey University (20 September).
10:35 Jamie Steer
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Dr Jamie Steer has his doctorate in Environmental Science. His research explores the understanding of introduced species in New Zealand in the context of biodiversity management, arguing for a more reconciliatory approach to their history and fate in the country. (NB. The views expressed in this interview are those of Dr Steer alone and are related solely to his academic research.)
11:05 Toby Carr
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Toby Carr is the CEO and founder of trading company DeXTech Ltd, and has just received an international youth leadership award. He is a speaker on the Future of Education panel at the Festival for the Future (23-25 September).
11:35 Bruce Gilkison
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New Zealander Bruce Gilkison spent the past two northern summers walking some of the Highland journeys completed in 1802-1804 by his great-great-grandfather, the Scottish writer, poet, sportsman, musician and larger-than-life personality James Hogg. He writes about finding that Hogg’s legacy is alive and growing in the 21st century in Walking with James Hogg: The Ettrick Shepherd’s Journeys through Scotland (Edinburgh University Press).
This Saturday’s team:
Producer: Mark Cubey
Wellington operator: Rachel Smith
Auckland operator: Blair Stagpoole
Research by Infofind
===12:11 PM. | This Way Up===
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Slices of life for curious minds. (RNZ)
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12:01
This Way Up for Saturday 17 September 2016
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Line trimmers, tech (colour of the internet and web filtering plans), beehive monitoring using sensors, here comes the "hygge", and science news.
Topics: technology, media
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Duration: 49'13"
12:02
Typing monkeys
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Science news with Dr Chris Smith. A team at Stanford is using brain computer interfaces to get monkeys to type at speeds of up to 12 words per minute. Throw in some predictive text (good old Autocorrect!) and technological improvements, and the technique could be used to help paralysed patients or those affected by conditions like motor neurone disease. Also a new way to store power from solar panels in water has been developed by scientists in Korea.
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Monkeys really can type Shakespeare, and you don't even need an infinite number of them either.
A team at Stanford University has used brain computer interfaces to get monkeys to type at speeds of up to 12 words per minute.
The text the monkeys transposed included sections of the New York Times and the Bard's immortal words "To be, or not to be", as well as the lesser known "A banana, a banana, my kingdom for a banana..."
Krishna Shenoy and his colleagues reported in the journal Proceedings of the IEEE, that they had used brain implants on two monkeys in the hope the technique could be used to help paralysed patients, or those affected by conditions like motor neurone disease which affect movement.
Throw in some predictive text capability - damn you, Autocorrect! - and the team hopes it can significantly improve the typing speeds achieved in the lab.
“Our results demonstrate that this interface may have great promise for use in people. It enables a typing rate sufficient for a meaningful conversation” - Paul Nuyujukian
Topics: science, health
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Tags: monkeys, brain, computer, typing, solar, battery
Duration: 9'02"
12:03
A buyer's guide to line trimmers
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With warmer weather not too far away (in theory), George Block of consumer.org.nz reviews the best line trimmers on the market. So should you go petrol or electric?
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Should you go petrol or electric?
George Block of consumer.org.nz reviews the best line trimmers on the market.
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Tags: gardening, line trimmers, battery, consumer
Duration: 5'43"
12:04
Here comes the 'hygge'!
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Sitting by a cosy fire, the smell of home baking, perhaps a few candles, and your nearest and dearest around you...the Danish would call all this 'hygge' (pronounced 'hoogah'). If you haven't heard of "hygge' yet you soon will, with a whole stack of books on the subject expected on the market in time for Christmas. Jeppe Trolle Linnet has become the go-to authority on all matters hygge since he publishished an academic paper on the subject back in 2011.
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Sitting by a cosy fire, the smell of home baking, perhaps a few candles and your nearest and dearest around you....the Danes would call all of this 'hygge' (pronounced 'hoog-ah').
With Denmark regularly ranked among the world's happiest countries, publishers and marketers are trying to export 'hygge' to the world, alongside other Danish mainstays like Lego, butter, and high-quality TV drama.
If you haven't heard of hygge yet, don't worry, you soon will!
A whole stack of books on the subject are expected on the market in time for Christmas. There's The Little Book of Hygge, How to Hygge, The Art of Hygge and of course Hygge: A Celebration of Simple Pleasures, Living the Danish Way... and plenty more, too.
Jeppe Trolle Linnet has become a go-to authority on all matters hygge since he published an academic paper on the subject back in 2011.
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Tags: Denmark, Danish, hygge
Duration: 5'57"
12:05
Beehive monitoring
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Hivemind is a New Zealand company using sensors to measure things like the weight of the hive, temperature and bee movements in and out to help beekeepers keep an eye on what's happening in their hives. With Martin Laas of Midlands Apiaries and Christian Walsh from Hivemind.
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New Zealand's honey exports are now worth around $280 million a year. With high-grade manuka honey fetching about $70 per kilo, beehives have also become a target for thieves.
Hivemind is a New Zealand company using sensor technology to measure things like hive weight, its temperature and bee movements in and out to help beekeepers keep an eye on exactly what's happening, and their beehives' health.
At the moment it's mainly being used by commercial beekeepers who sometimes have hundreds of beehives spread around various remote locations. But a version targeted at the backyard hobbyist is about to hit the market, too.
Topics: environment, technology
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Tags: agriculture; honey; monitoring; manuka; sensors; bees; beehives, agriculture, honey, Monitoring, manuka, sensors, bees, beehives
Duration: 13'02"
12:06
What colour is the internet?
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Peter Griffin with the latest tech news, and this week what colour is the internet?! It's a question that designers and businesses are wrestling with as they try to get us to spend as long as possible on their sites. Also the head of the UK's cybersecurity agency wants the internet to be filtered for malware; but how realistic is this?
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Designer Paul Herbert has been using software to identify the dominant colours in the world's top 10 websites. The top colour? Blue!
Also the head of the UK's cybersecurity agency wants the internet to be filtered for malware - but how realistic is this?
Paul Herbert acknowledges that with nearly 5 billion webpages online right now. his sample size is relatively small size, but he has plans to analyse more websites using the web rating service alexia.com.
So why is blue so popular?
Rumour has it that Facebook uses blue because its CEO and founder Mark Zuckerberg is red/green colour blind.
But what about Twitter, Skype, LinkedIn, Pandora and Google - why are they using so many shades of blue?
This Way Up's tech correspondent Peter Griffin says studies have shown that blue is a favoured colour among both men and women in most parts of the world. According to web developers, blue also conveys professionalism, authority, and it's an inviting and relaxing colour to look at (unlike, say, the colour red which elevates your heart beat and perspiration rate!)
However the trend is not so apparent when you look at the top New Zealand websites, says Griffin. TradeMe is predominantly yellow, Stuff is white, and the NZ Herald black and white. Of the big banks, although blue dominates both the ANZ and BNZ websites, others may need to review their colour palettes!
Test how many web site blues you can recognise.
Topics: media, technology
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Tags: colour, web design, filtering, websites, internet
Duration: 12'46"
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===1:10 PM. | Music 101===
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The best songs, music-related stories, interviews, live music, industry news and music documentaries from NZ and the world
===5:11 PM. | Focus on Politics===
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Analysis of political issues presented by RNZ's Parliamentary team (RNZ)
===5:30 PM. | Tagata o te Moana===
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An eventful week of politics in Fiji; New Caledonia and French Polynesia join the Pacific Islands Forum; a Tongan cabinet minister sacked for unacceptable behaviour; new legislation could help uncover abuse in Guam's Catholic Church; PNG's New Ireland ready for autonomy according to Governor Julius Chan; Fiji spruiks economy amid mixed messages on PACER Plus;; Pacific stars of opera, dancing, and poetry perform in London.
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Pacific news, features, interviews and music for all New Zealanders, giving an insight into the diverse cultures of the Pacific people (RNZI)
===6:06 PM. | Great Encounters===
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In-depth interviews selected from RNZ National's feature programmes during the week (RNZ)
===7:06 PM. | Saturday Night===
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Saturday nights on RNZ National is where Phil O'Brien plays the songs YOU want to hear. All music from 7 till midnight (RNZ)
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7 - 8pm
Nat King Cole - A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square
John McCormack - Ireland Mother Ireland
Dean Elliot and His Big Band - You're The Top
The Ink Spots - I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire
Bing Crosby - Maggie
Percy Sledge - Warm And Tender Love
The Ray Conniff Singers - Somewhere My Love
Linda Ronstadt - Poor Wandering One (from The Pirates Of Penzance)
The Everly Brothers - Claudette
Donald Fagen - Walk Between Raindrops
Manhattan Transfer - A Gal In Calico
Jeff Lynne - Stormy Weather
Tami Neilson - Walk Me Back To Your Arms
Dave Dobbyn - Welcome Home
George Jones and Melba Montgomery - Let's Invite Them Over
8 - 9pm
Cole Porter - You're The Top
Fourmyula - Otaki
Mark Knopfler - Metroland
Emmylou Harris and Rodney Crowell - The Traveling Kind
Van Morrison - It's All In The Game / You Know What They're Writing About
Jeff Buckley - Just Like A Woman
The Hi-Lo's - Brahms Lullaby
The Vogues - My Special Angel
John D. Loudermilk - Tobacco Road
Swing Ninjas - My Belle
Bobby Darin - Black Coffee
9 - 10pm
Bob Seger - Fire Lake
Fat Freddy's Drop - Blackbird
The Narcs - Heart And Soul
John Martyn - May You Never
Prince Buster - One Step Beyond
Alison Krauss and Union Station - The Lucky One
Lisa Marie, Malcolm McLaren - Something's Jumpin' In Your Shirt
Windy City Strugglers - If I Was Thirsty
The Righteous Brothers - Little Latin Lupe Lu
Saffire - Middle Aged Blues Boogie
10 - 11pm
The Touré-Raichel Collective - Azawade
Earl Van Dyke - All For You
Darrell Scott - East Of Gary
Big Bill Broonzy - The Glory Of Love
Spines - Your Body Stays
The Grass Roots - Let's Live For Today
Joy Division - Atmosphere
The Puppini Sisters - Sisters
Jonathan Edwards - Morning Train
11pm - Midnight: Late Night Phil
Looking and listening back to the week in music history.
Sam Butera And The Witnesses - La Vie En Rose
John Martyn - Don't Think Twice It's Alright
Barry White - It's Ecstasy (When You Lay Down Next To Me)
Blood, Sweat and Tears - Go Down Gambling
Was, Not Was - Papa Was A Rolling Stone
Amy Winehouse and Tony Bennett - Body And Soul
BB King and Van Morrison - Early In The Morning
The Tubes - Up From The Deep
The Tubes - What Do You Want From Life
The Tubes - Don't Touch Me There
The Tubes - Mondo Bondage